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OGS & Employment [Apr. 15th, 2010|10:53 am]


So, I have a question to those who have had OGS and maybe can answer this query.

Although i have a good package from my chosen school with a TAship, in the year that I have been off I have also been lucky enough to find a good-paying full-time job that I would like to keep because I intend to take a year off between my MA & PhD. In order to keep this job so that I will have it secure for me when I'm done my MA studies, I need to commit to 1 day a week during the school year (as a sign of good faith since they don't want to grant me a leave of absence). My understanding is that although the school frowns upon employment outside of a TA/RAship/etc., I'm more than confident that I can handle an extra 8 hours.

I've heard two versions. That if they find out that you've been working more than 10hrs/week (which the TAship is), they can ask you to pay it back in full with interest & penalties. The second is that as long as any employment you make doesn't impact your full-time status, it's a non issue. The OGS website says the later, my school says the former. I'm inclined to say that the OGS website is accurate but I'm unclear.

Does anyone know for sure?

Thanks in advance!

[User Picture]From: rexlezard
2010-04-15 03:39 pm (UTC)
Congrats on landing an OGS!

In my five years in graduate school, I have noticed one thing - it is incredibly frowned upon to have outside employment, even though the funding structure often makes it necessary. Thus, I would do my best to keep it on the downlow if I were working outside.

Seriously, I have seen people (admittedly at my current institution in the US) get passed over for $20/hr research assistantships because "Doesn't she work at Wal-Mart? How sure are we that she's really committing herself to her academic work?" She works at wal-mart, you fucking jackasses, because she needs the money.

Don't tell your school, OGS doesn't give a shit. SSHRC doesn't give a shit, either, though they pretend they do. So long as you're making progress, it doesn't matter.
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From: endxgame
2010-04-15 04:19 pm (UTC)
In my experience the way it works is that officially you are not allowed to work. Unofficially no one will ever put in any amount of effort to find out at the SSHRC/OGS level and most people in grad program administration don't care as long as you keep it secret (they don't want the program to get a reputation as being so poorly funded that people need outside employment). So go ahead and do it if you think you need/are capable of doing it, just don't make it public.
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[User Picture]From: miamadness15
2010-04-15 04:22 pm (UTC)
The usual with the SSHRC was that you could work some 450 hours a year anyways (8 hours a week makes 416). It's the equivalent of a one class/semester load a an adjunct.

I would say the same as Rexlezard. Don't tell anyone.

And congrats for the OGS!
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[User Picture]From: jumpinjulia
2010-04-24 08:26 pm (UTC)
I did my PhD at a school with a "don't ask, don't tell" policy as far as outside work went. It could have been that I was in the education faculty, but most of the students were working fulltime -- esp. after their first year or the end of their comps. The faculty, in turn, scheduled most grad courses for the night time slot... i.e. after working hours.

No, really, I'm serious.

I had a SSHRC, too, but have to admit that I did not work fulltime until after the SSHRC ended and there was no end in sight to my degree. Heck, I even moved to another city, with the full knowledge of my committee.

Good luck!

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